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		By: Jeanne Boyarsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeanne Boyarsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[update: the new names are officially out
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update: the new names are officially out<br />
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		By: Jeanne Boyarsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeanne Boyarsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[update: the new exams are now in paid beta mode]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update: the new exams are now in paid beta mode</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeanne&#8217;s SCEA 5 part 1 experiences &#124; Down Home Country Coding With Scott Selikoff and Jeanne Boyarsky]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Jeanne Boyarsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeanne Boyarsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see Oracle fixed the spelling of &quot;servlette&quot; to the proper &quot;servlet&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Oracle fixed the spelling of &#8220;servlette&#8221; to the proper &#8220;servlet&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jeanne Boyarsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeanne Boyarsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting on the exams not being profitable.

And thanks for the Wii fit marble congrats.  Now that I&#039;ve beaten it once I need to work on timing.  (Kathy got this from a twitter post @jeanneboyarsky)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting on the exams not being profitable.</p>
<p>And thanks for the Wii fit marble congrats.  Now that I&#8217;ve beaten it once I need to work on timing.  (Kathy got this from a twitter post @jeanneboyarsky)</p>
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		By: Kathy Sierra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathy Sierra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From everything we&#039;ve seen (which is not much), your speculation makes the most sense. The only thing I want to correct is this point:
&quot;There are more exams in the new world.  More money for Oracle.&quot;

Though I can&#039;t speak for Oracle, at Sun the Java/dev exams were rarely profitable and in fact Sun had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do them. Until I worked on them, I had no idea exactly what Sun had to do in order to create legally-defensible exams, but the dev costs were extraordinary. Not for the creation of the actual questions, but to go through the whole psychometrics process. Just one of my cert-related job responsibilities for a while involved responding to exam-takers who were threatening lawsuits because they did not pass it! Oh the stories I could tell ;)

But I do have some faith that Oracle will keep the exams going--at the least--because they do take certification seriously. We&#039;ve heard just enough inside scoop to help reinforce that faith, but nothing remotely resembling an Actual Fact, so... we&#039;ll see.

(in other unrelated news, congrats on your Wii fit marble ass-kicking performance. I love that game)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From everything we&#8217;ve seen (which is not much), your speculation makes the most sense. The only thing I want to correct is this point:<br />
&#8220;There are more exams in the new world.  More money for Oracle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though I can&#8217;t speak for Oracle, at Sun the Java/dev exams were rarely profitable and in fact Sun had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do them. Until I worked on them, I had no idea exactly what Sun had to do in order to create legally-defensible exams, but the dev costs were extraordinary. Not for the creation of the actual questions, but to go through the whole psychometrics process. Just one of my cert-related job responsibilities for a while involved responding to exam-takers who were threatening lawsuits because they did not pass it! Oh the stories I could tell 😉</p>
<p>But I do have some faith that Oracle will keep the exams going&#8211;at the least&#8211;because they do take certification seriously. We&#8217;ve heard just enough inside scoop to help reinforce that faith, but nothing remotely resembling an Actual Fact, so&#8230; we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>(in other unrelated news, congrats on your Wii fit marble ass-kicking performance. I love that game)</p>
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