Comments on: What’s next for Sun certifications now that Oracle is in charge? http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/ Java/J2EE Software Development and Technology Discussion Blog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:20:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeanne Boyarsky http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2716 Jeanne Boyarsky Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:14:59 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2716 update: the new names are officially out http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=433 update: the new names are officially out
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=433

]]> By: Jeanne Boyarsky http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2609 Jeanne Boyarsky Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:03:32 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2609 update: the new exams are now in paid beta mode update: the new exams are now in paid beta mode

]]> By: jeanne’s SCEA 5 part 1 experiences | Down Home Country Coding With Scott Selikoff and Jeanne Boyarsky http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 jeanne’s SCEA 5 part 1 experiences | Down Home Country Coding With Scott Selikoff and Jeanne Boyarsky Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:23:27 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2599 [...] What’s next for Sun certifications now that Oracle is in charge? [...] [...] What’s next for Sun certifications now that Oracle is in charge? [...]

]]> By: Jeanne Boyarsky http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2598 Jeanne Boyarsky Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:10:10 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2598 I see Oracle fixed the spelling of "servlette" to the proper "servlet" I see Oracle fixed the spelling of “servlette” to the proper “servlet”

]]> By: Jeanne Boyarsky http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2552 Jeanne Boyarsky Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:05:33 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2552 Interesting on the exams not being profitable. And thanks for the Wii fit marble congrats. Now that I've beaten it once I need to work on timing. (Kathy got this from a twitter post @jeanneboyarsky) Interesting on the exams not being profitable.

And thanks for the Wii fit marble congrats. Now that I’ve beaten it once I need to work on timing. (Kathy got this from a twitter post @jeanneboyarsky)

]]> By: Kathy Sierra http://www.selikoff.net/2010/07/05/whats-next-for-sun-certifications-now-that-oracle-is-in-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2551 Kathy Sierra Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:42:26 +0000 http://www.selikoff.net/?p=2057#comment-2551 From everything we've seen (which is not much), your speculation makes the most sense. The only thing I want to correct is this point: "There are more exams in the new world. More money for Oracle." Though I can't speak for Oracle, at Sun the Java/dev exams were rarely profitable and in fact Sun had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do them. Until I worked on them, I had no idea exactly what Sun had to do in order to create legally-defensible exams, but the dev costs were extraordinary. Not for the creation of the actual questions, but to go through the whole psychometrics process. Just one of my cert-related job responsibilities for a while involved responding to exam-takers who were threatening lawsuits because they did not pass it! Oh the stories I could tell ;) But I do have some faith that Oracle will keep the exams going--at the least--because they do take certification seriously. We've heard just enough inside scoop to help reinforce that faith, but nothing remotely resembling an Actual Fact, so... we'll see. (in other unrelated news, congrats on your Wii fit marble ass-kicking performance. I love that game) From everything we’ve seen (which is not much), your speculation makes the most sense. The only thing I want to correct is this point:
“There are more exams in the new world. More money for Oracle.”

Though I can’t speak for Oracle, at Sun the Java/dev exams were rarely profitable and in fact Sun had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do them. Until I worked on them, I had no idea exactly what Sun had to do in order to create legally-defensible exams, but the dev costs were extraordinary. Not for the creation of the actual questions, but to go through the whole psychometrics process. Just one of my cert-related job responsibilities for a while involved responding to exam-takers who were threatening lawsuits because they did not pass it! Oh the stories I could tell ;)

But I do have some faith that Oracle will keep the exams going–at the least–because they do take certification seriously. We’ve heard just enough inside scoop to help reinforce that faith, but nothing remotely resembling an Actual Fact, so… we’ll see.

(in other unrelated news, congrats on your Wii fit marble ass-kicking performance. I love that game)

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